I make plenty of sense. Miyavi's stage persona is just that, a stage persona. The 'fans' who compare every last Japanese guitarist to Sugizo-- they're serious.Kazuo wrote:Miz wrote:People exaggerate too much about Miyavi. It'd really be nice if people could see that his stage personality just an act. When he's actually talking, he actually is pretty smart sounding. I like that he sees himself as an artist and not, as suggested, a product.
Really, though, who cares about if he's silly when in character? There are plenty of people with potentially bothersome characters. It's not even so much that anymore as it is "STOP COMPARING EVERY JAPANESE GUITARIST TO SUGIZO". Seriously. I'm sick of it. Every time I read something about a jrock guitarist, someone pops up to say "Sugizo lolz!" And now, he can't even be in the same band as someone without some comparison starting?!
No, apparently not. And since Luna Sea is pretty much the basis for a fine majority of VKs sound as we know it today and many a guitarist look up to Sugizo and even pull some of his signature stances while soloing.. I don't think the comparisons are going to stop because you're "sick of it". Know what I'm sick of? People saying "lolz" every time they try to mock something.
You really make little sense because you want people to stop caring about Miyavi's silly attitude, but then you're sick of other things.
Illaparatzo wrote:I don't consider technicality to be the end-all standard to judge guitarists by. Sugizo creates beautiful melodies with his guitar, and I feel that expresses creativity much more easily than simply being able to do a piece at a speed ten times faster and cleaner than anyone else.
I definitely, completely agree with this though. And while I suppose I do agree about time spent as a musician not making one immediately better, I think in the Sugizo vs. Miyavi case, it does.
There's a huge difference between how someone acts on stage and in videos, or in interviews than when someone's sitting around mentioning Sugizo whenever any jrock guitarist is mentioned.
Of course it's not going to stop because I'm sick of it. Nothing that I'm sick of seems to stop, as shown in a certain other thread. Alright, so they are in the same band. Who cares who's 'better'? It's ridiculous. I don't see everyone yelling out "Korn!!!" whenever a nu metal band emerges. I don't see people yelling out "Mayhem!!!" whenever a black metal band emerges. Nope. Because that would be a blind stereotype. If your logic were actually applicable to things that you aren't arguing against, then alot of things would be different right? But if you agree with the person, the same behaviors apply. Huh? So, if someone says a band sucks, it's not like they'll change because a bunch of people are complaining about them. So.. I should be allowed to have an opinion that differs while using those tacticts, right? Oh, and by the way, no, I'm not going to stop using "lolz" just because you're sick of it.
All counters aside, I believe you completely missed my point. It wasn't about Miyavi as it was every single guitarist. It's an unfair point to argue, since the general jrock population thinks it's cool to diss Miyavi. Obviously, everyone (Especially the people who are considered 'elite' and 'elderly' because they worship bands like X Japan, Kuroyume, LUNA SEA, ect) is going to give Sugizo the automatic vote, because of this. But my point was, there shouldn't be any vote in the first place. Can't we leave it at 'Miyavi and Sugizo are in the same band'? It's as if both parties feel one is too good to play with the other. ><