Why *do* so many people hate Gackt?

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I never said visual kei, I said he is still visual. The way people act is that he doesnt do anything but sit there and dance and try to be pop or something. It's completely a wrong statement.
 

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Nocturne wrote:
I never said visual kei, I said he is still visual. The way people act is that he doesnt do anything but sit there and dance and try to be pop or something. It's completely a wrong statement.

Oh, well, by "visual" I thought you meant "visual kei". But yes, you'd be right then. He does put on a great show.
 

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Nocturne wrote:
I honestly dont understand how people can say he isnt visual anymore. Have any of you seen ANY of his concerts? Pretty much every one of his concerts have HUGE theatical performances, with costume changes, props, other people to add to the presentation. He doesnt just sit out there and sing and dance around. He actually does skits that go along with the story of his albums.

That's because he's a crazy obsessive perfectionist who's got a *really* big story to convey to us. XD

And that is why he is loved, as well as hated, imho. -.^

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I think if anyone ask him if he consider himself as a visual musician right now, probably he would say "not at all", I mean, after has been a member of Malice Mizer, the most emblematic band of visual-kei what's next :P , you could only go down in that terms and he understood perfectly, but I think his particular style right now, fits him very well and has more freedom to do any kind of stuff not only one type of music :cool:
 

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Actually, he wouldnt deny anything about Malice Mizer, because, besides Mana, he is the only other one who has said that he was proud of being a member of Malice Mizer.

Where as (Yes I like Kozi alot), Kozi has jumped to say he isnt visual kei and stuff of the sort, which is really kind of sad.
 

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Nocturne wrote:
Actually, he wouldnt deny anything about Malice Mizer, because, besides Mana, he is the only other one who has said that he was proud of being a member of Malice Mizer.

Where as (Yes I like Kozi alot), Kozi has jumped to say he isnt visual kei and stuff of the sort, which is really kind of sad.


I think that Kozi saying he isn't visual kei does not automaticaly mean that he was not proud of Malice Mizer.

Regarding Gackt, well...i think he is proud of MM, but i don't get it why he had to write all those things about his departure after 6 years...i think it was not fair to the other members.

And i agree with you that he is a visual artist.
 

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Nocturne wrote:
Actually, he wouldnt deny anything about Malice Mizer, because, besides Mana, he is the only other one who has said that he was proud of being a member of Malice Mizer.

Where as (Yes I like Kozi alot), Kozi has jumped to say he isnt visual kei and stuff of the sort, which is really kind of sad.

but talking about Kozi, maybe he said that thinking in his actual work, not in his malice mizer years (I mean Kozi loved Malice Mizer and he was also one of the band creators, I haven´t doubt about that), the same with Gackt, and that isn't deny his roots all the contrary, is give more credit to those years, like they were so good that it just can't be repeated or emulated ::dix::
 

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I dont hate the man if he wanted wot he did thats his problem he still good to me ^^ ::coffee:: ofcourse im talking about Kozi
 

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I dislike Gackt because I he sometimes acts "too cool" and that "Oh yeah I'm calm and collected, so good looking I'm too good looking to smile. Oh yeah! Every1 loves me I'm going to walk around so that every1 can admire my godlyness"

This is just my oppion, please don't hurt me :?

But I admire I do like some of his songs....

Also he's very very rude, that scares me >.<

Edit: Another thought, he treats his band mebeers like toys for his little "shanagans" whether or not they like this I donno, but I wouldn't if I were one of his band members
 

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devil_usagi wrote:
I dislike Gackt because I he sometimes acts "too cool" and that "Oh yeah I'm calm and collected, so good looking I'm too good looking to smile. Oh yeah! Every1 loves me I'm going to walk around so that every1 can admire my godlyness"

This is just my oppion, please don't hurt me :?

But I admire I do like some of his songs....

Also he's very very rude, that scares me >.<

Edit: Another thought, he treats his band mebeers like toys for his little "shanagans" whether or not they like this I donno, but I wouldn't if I were one of his band members

Where are you getting that he's rude? And did his band members tell you he treats them like this..?
 

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I really think the songs written for Malice Mizer displayed Gackt's vocal range and singing talent far more than the songs in his solo career. I think Gackt can do so much more than what his recent work suggests.
I disagree. While I'm a little disappointed in his vocal inflections in his most recent two albums, everything before that is extremely solid, surpassing his vocal range in Malice. I don't recall many high falsetto bits that sounded crystal-clear as they do in Ares, 4th, Tsuki no Uta, Leeca, some others... plus there's the odd-singing he does in Illness Illusion, the sheer strength and power of Secret Garden, raw emotion in Freesia... nothing in the MM catalogue is as impressive, as I discern it.

I said "recent work", (meaning Diabolos and some of Love Letter) not the songs from his earlier albums. While I agree with you about the songs you suggested and his vocal capabilities in each, I enjoyed the MM "style" of music more and therefore enjoyed Gackt's singing in MM over his solo career solely based on my musical preferences.

I'm not bashing Gackt at all. I paid $540 to see his Diabolos tour. Both my wallet and I like Gackt very much.
 

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I love Gackt, but for some reason all albums/songs from Love Letter and above just give me a bad taste in my mouth. I don't understand why, and I don't question it anymore. I guess you could say I both love and hate Gackt?
 

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Kazuo wrote:
devil_usagi wrote:
I dislike Gackt because I he sometimes acts "too cool" and that "Oh yeah I'm calm and collected, so good looking I'm too good looking to smile. Oh yeah! Every1 loves me I'm going to walk around so that every1 can admire my godlyness"

This is just my oppion, please don't hurt me :?

But I admire I do like some of his songs....

Also he's very very rude, that scares me >.<

Edit: Another thought, he treats his band mebeers like toys for his little "shanagans" whether or not they like this I donno, but I wouldn't if I were one of his band members

When I say rude a mean as in, not innocent type thing. Hmmm....like the vanila thing and some of his pictures. That sort of rude. Sorry I'm not very good with words ^^''

Where are you getting that he's rude? And did his band members tell you he treats them like this..?
 

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Nocturne wrote:
Actually, he wouldnt deny anything about Malice Mizer, because, besides Mana, he is the only other one who has said that he was proud of being a member of Malice Mizer.

Where as (Yes I like Kozi alot), Kozi has jumped to say he isnt visual kei and stuff of the sort, which is really kind of sad.

In regards to Kozi saying he's not visual kei. That's taken way out of context. When he says he's not visual kei. He's said that in referring to what he's doing with Eve of Destiny. Eve of Destiny is constantly being confused by people that they are a visual kei band, or a jrock band. They are neither. They are a japanese goth/industrial band. Which has nothing to do with either of those two musical scenes or genres.

I don't know if he's said the same thing in regards to his solo efforts. That I cannot be certain on because there's been little to no tranlastions done on any of the articles he's been in covering his solo works.
 

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I like Gackt's music and message in his music, but I dont like him very much. I think he can be amusing/funny at times, and he and I share one or two common interests, but alot of our ideals crash. Especially ones about love.

I find it odd that he sings all these love songs and has deep love songs that are very well written and beautiful, yet he thinks marriage isnt a big deal and if you feel like cheating then you should, which I highly disagree to the greatest extent. It seems like he makes those love songs, but he himself doesnt really understand what true love is, or has a very high opinion of what love should be.
 

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Nocturne wrote:
I like Gackt's music and message in his music, but I dont like him very much. I think he can be amusing/funny at times, and he and I share one or two common interests, but alot of our ideals crash. Especially ones about love.

I find it odd that he sings all these love songs and has deep love songs that are very well written and beautiful, yet he thinks marriage isnt a big deal and if you feel like cheating then you should, which I highly disagree to the greatest extent. It seems like he makes those love songs, but he himself doesnt really understand what true love is, or has a very high opinion of what love should be.
Do you think that could be because he has been hurt deeply in the past, or something happened to him that made him wary? People don't just up and decide these things. I share your sentiments but I don't share or see the need to judge him on it.
 

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I love Gackt, but for some reason all albums/songs from Love Letter and above just give me a bad taste in my mouth. I don't understand why, and I don't question it anymore. I guess you could say I both love and hate Gackt?
I don't like love letter and either the seventh night album :? but he insist that Love Letter is just a valentines gift to his fans :P like a parenthesis in his usual work or something like that, if I put this way it makes a lot more sense, but still don't like it, (I just saw it like this typical special christmas albums, that some bands make once in a while :P )....
 

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i like love letter :( and the 7th night too, but i think the 6th day was kind of weak.

and i think gackt believes that when you truly love someone you don't need to marry them or something.....you just stay together, because you feel like it and you enjoy the person's company. I think that he is not being hypocrite or something of the sort.
 

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Elec wrote:
Nocturne wrote:
I like Gackt's music and message in his music, but I dont like him very much. I think he can be amusing/funny at times, and he and I share one or two common interests, but alot of our ideals crash. Especially ones about love.

I find it odd that he sings all these love songs and has deep love songs that are very well written and beautiful, yet he thinks marriage isnt a big deal and if you feel like cheating then you should, which I highly disagree to the greatest extent. It seems like he makes those love songs, but he himself doesnt really understand what true love is, or has a very high opinion of what love should be.
Do you think that could be because he has been hurt deeply in the past, or something happened to him that made him wary? People don't just up and decide these things. I share your sentiments but I don't share or see the need to judge him on it.
Seriously. Wasn't Gackt married once to a Korean girl, and then afterwards said NEVER AGAIN? I mean just right there, that has to affect you a lot...
 

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rizumu wrote:
Elec wrote:
Nocturne wrote:
I like Gackt's music and message in his music, but I dont like him very much. I think he can be amusing/funny at times, and he and I share one or two common interests, but alot of our ideals crash. Especially ones about love.

I find it odd that he sings all these love songs and has deep love songs that are very well written and beautiful, yet he thinks marriage isnt a big deal and if you feel like cheating then you should, which I highly disagree to the greatest extent. It seems like he makes those love songs, but he himself doesnt really understand what true love is, or has a very high opinion of what love should be.
Do you think that could be because he has been hurt deeply in the past, or something happened to him that made him wary? People don't just up and decide these things. I share your sentiments but I don't share or see the need to judge him on it.
Seriously. Wasn't Gackt married once to a Korean girl, and then afterwards said NEVER AGAIN? I mean just right there, that has to affect you a lot...

Even if he did get married again, I think there will be a storm among of the overprotecting fangirls.
They would not leave them at peace if that ever happened! :|

I think one of the reasons why people might be against Gackt is because he left Malice Mizer.
Some fans find MM not to be the same without him and some are just selfish. The selfish fans
don't like the idea of Gackt goin 'mainstream' by going into a major record label and creating music other
than what Malice Mizer would have done.

That or they have issues with people his blood type :P
 
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