Live Malice Mizer 25th Anniversary DSVI 9/8/18 & 9/9/18

Discussion in '-main-' started by etherealspirits, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

    etherealspirits
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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:08 pm

    MorganIvy wrote:
    I have no idea what was said on the first night, but if one was to search the concert on twitter, there may be people who wrote about that in Japanese. Good luck.

    Js_klaus wrote:
    I didn't hear any audio problems the second night. It seemed to go really well. And I'm a sound engineer, trained to listen for problems. The only thing I noticed was when there was a bad note like Ryux might have broken a string in a song. But he didn't, he looked upwards as if asking K if he did that.

    Of course if there is a dvd, I might hear something. But I didn't notice anything obvious like recording starting at the wrong time or someone's mic not being loud enough, or an instrument drowning out everything else. Not this night.
     
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  2. Js_klaus -eternite- eternite

    Js_klaus
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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:22 pm

    I got recordings of the MCs maybe I can share them, since MC aren't included in DVDs ::mana::
     
  3. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:32 pm

    If you've seen the DVD and you know what's on it, maybe. Otherwise no.
     
  4. Js_klaus -eternite- eternite

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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:34 pm

    :lol:okay

    ::beat::
     
  5. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:47 pm

    The dvd is out already? Really?

    No one except the people working on the recorded material know what is going to be on a dvd, if there is one.

    I think if someone attended and was writing up their experience, then briefly stating the general discussion is one thing, because it's part of the experience.

    Seriously, why do people think it's okay to post material that clearly is copyrighted? Pushing illegal recordings? Don't answer, I know it.

    People want Mana to tour, they want him to put out new music. But if you undercut his earnings by posting material that he has the copyright to, material that is for sale now or in the future, you are cutting into his earnings and his abilty to tour and do more things. Recording isn't free, tours cost money to set up. You are hurting the very thing you say you appreciate.

    If I sound moralistic, well maybe someone has to say it.
     
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  6. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:14 pm

    etherealspirits wrote:
    I am going to specify this, because I know older bootleg recordings are out there. In those cases, there never were the recordings actually for sale by the artists, and a lot of time has past. If in the future the artist does sell recordings of the events, then it changes the situation. If the artist does decide to pursue their copyright on those recordings, it also changes the situation.

    In the case of Deep Sanctuary VI, It's only been a couple of weeks and was obviously recorded by the artists. And do I even need to point out the bootleg recordings are illegal?
     
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  7. MorganIvy -current- -current-

    MorganIvy
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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:25 pm

    What happened to the running joke that Mana is out for our wallets? ::mana::

    I feel like you may need to chill with all the judgment tho, it's not like this is a rabid fangirl forum that shares every single thing for free ::meev::

    Also, people generally abide by the rules here, no? :| The moralistic tone is just annoying...
     
  8. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

    etherealspirits
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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:27 pm

    MorganIvy wrote:
    Since people keep wanting to post illegal recordings on here or link to them, obviously there are those who don't want to abide by the rules or need it explained why it's not okay. Which is what I am doing. I'm not moralizing, I am stating facts.
     
  9. MorganIvy -current- -current-

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    Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:51 pm

    Sorry, I didn't realize @flowersofnight needed help with the moderating, always thought he did a marvelous job keeping us in line ::bleh::
     
  10. heutre -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:05 am

    I understand both sides !
    I understand MorganIvy's curiosity and desire to dissect the live concerts, but I understand that it's not the right timing and that it's not right to Mana if he ever decides to release a DVD.

    We should leave it at rest and wait a bit. Let's not cause drama. I don't think we should make any more of a fuss out of the situation..
     
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    Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:28 am

    MorganIvy wrote:
    Now he sells us the wallets ::cred::

    Anyway yeah, I think everyone knows my official position on this live material and everyone knows the arguments for and against it. Let's just coooool it.
     
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  12. MorganIvy -current- -current-

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    Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:39 am

    flowersofnight wrote:
    I actually bought a Moitie wallet when I was in Japan last month ::meev:: I feel like I can justify it because I'm an adult now, I decide how ridiculously I get to spend my own money!::eat::
     
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  13. Witchka -current- -current-

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    Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:00 am

    MorganIvy wrote:
    Do you see Mana fleeing to Malaysia for tax-fraud? ::gaku::

    I blame the death of net-neutrality. We're all on edge cuz big-brother's watching ::meev:: .... Though I also have to agree with both sides on this case. Sharing vintage and hard-to-find images, audio/video clips that are nowhere to find on official websites is one thing... but hovering over something fairly recent that will be available to us in due time like a bunch of vultures is a tad unbecoming, especially if the fans have been specifically instructed/asked not to film/record or photograph the show.... although I can't say that last part for sure as I wasn't even there...

    Honestly, I see nothing wrong with trying to cover your own ass. Nobody wants to get into hot water, even if the risk seems pretty low... But maybe that's just me (I was always the "good" kid who always got caught while everybody else seemed to get away with everything - okay, tragic backstory over).
     
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  14. Madmoiselle_Silk -night vision- night vision

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    Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:42 am

    Transcribing (what I assume is) a shitty live recording is very far from what would be released (I hope...unless the budget is really bad). Even if someone had recorded the whole concert with their phone, I'd still buy the assumed dvd to be and I think most fans would. This is taken way to seriously XD I could not attend so I for example would love to hear this MC because I'm pretty sure if released, they'd cut it up.

    I went to the exhibition twive, and it made me so sad thinking that I missed this live :( I stayed for the whole lenght of the live dvds playing at ESP XD
     
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    Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:36 am

    I was curious about what “da scape guys” would say of the bootleg youtube recordings (which were pretty decently recorded and both days), they are gone now but still i was glad to be able to hear the concert and have a guarantee of hearing it again since it’s still posible that mana decides not to release anything, hope he does release it tho

    Edit:
    Also Mana just posted a photo wearing the new costume on his Twitter telling people to go to the esp exhibition since it’s only lasting till this weekend

    https://mobile.twitter.com/M_d_M_official/status/1045171334227980288/photo/1
     
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    Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:46 pm

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    Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:54 am

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  18. Js_klaus -eternite- eternite

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    Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:00 am

    This is going to sound crazy but I'm looking for the yellow ribbon from the deep sanctuary since I got a lot of blue and purple, anyone wants to exchange? Or maybe selling I dunno.
     
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    Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:01 am

    Js_klaus wrote:
    Flowers posted someone selling on Yahoo auctions.
     
  20. MorganIvy -current- -current-

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    Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:05 pm

    Js_klaus wrote:
    I only have one silver and one purple, otherwise i would gladly exchange some with you... I'll ask my friends who went with me tho!