Madou Gathering 8 ~the day that no one cares~

[voixdinferno]

well, the setlist:

-The Seventh Veil
-Witchcraft
-Sanctum Regnum
-unmoved
-La dix Croix
-the prophet
-Pendulum
-Divine Place
-Agnus Dei
-The SECT
-Dies Irae
-Vain
-Immortal Madness
-forbidden
-deus ex machina
-Ange
-Dead Scape
-Pageant

as you can see... bad as usual

then, the reports:

From Angelica --> http://bit.ly/m1i5oX (Portuguese)
From Chounohana --> http://bit.ly/mugBwu

and finally a video from the row (of lolis xD) recorder by my friend Francisco --> http://bit.ly/jgAgxd (EDIT: I just noticed it has some part of the live :B )

ah! .... 2 post from ESP of the Mana's guitar fair --> http://ameblo.jp/espcrafthouse/

 

[Cerceaux]

They're shutting down the fanclub?

 

[voixdinferno]

I hope so!

 

[Cerceaux]

LOL

 

[Madmoiselle_Silk]

I wonder if that book won't be sold at cdjapan :/ I don't dare to putt an order at midi-nette >.< And they probably wouldn't even send me an invoice -.-

 

[Geisha]

They're shutting down the fanclub?

The domestic FC is shut while they're looking for a new provider, so on the flyers they handed out after the concert it said no FC tickets for the concert in August. The girls thought that meant no FC tickets at all, but since then they received an email about ticket reservation for international members. Hope they won't get lynched by jealous Japanese fans who only have combini tickets.

 

[eyeball_princess]

It's shut for a while, the international FC ought to be shut. I don't know what's the most desirable. If they lynch, you know what to do

 

[Garnet in the Eden]

i hope a remake of la dix croix is on the next album.

 

[Mrs. Fujiwara]

Just to clarify in case people are confused by my report in Portuguese: as I stated there, nothing was said officially about Mon+amour closing. The Japanese version of the FC received a letter in May mentioning a change of servers so, probably due to this, the live in August won't have reservation of tickets for Japanese Mon+amour members (Mana's birthday live tickets were bought for the live in March, so it was way before this hiatus on the Japanese version).

The flyer we received after the live explained that in a line and mentioned "Mon+amour" only, so we - international members present - naturally thought that meant us as well. Until we received the newsletter e-mail explaining we could still reserve our tickets normally. Probably because we are a lot less members by now.

Hope that helps!

 

[voixdinferno]

Thanks dear! ^_^

 

[Camuflagem]

i hope a remake of la dix croix is on the next album.

hm, i really don't think the same way... there are already too many remakes from Dix Infernal. I'd rather have new songs.

 

[Garnet in the Eden]

i hope a remake of la dix croix is on the next album.

hm, i really don't think the same way... there are already too many remakes from Dix Infernal. I'd rather have new songs.

well i like all the remakes and i'd like for that whole album to be remade across various cds so i could put them together and listen to the album like that, as i prefer the remakes to the originals.

 

[Camuflagem]

I think it'd be bad. People are already tired of Mana recycling stuff. And it's not just scape.

Go to youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29xZgUUB ... r_embedded and see what some of the top comments say

here, i'll post for you

Wow, nothing new for a couple of years, and THIS is what he releases? He's just rehashing the same amateurish, poorly written metal backed up by cheap sounding keyboards. I don't think there is one element of this song that cannot be found in at least one of his old songs. I used to be a big fan, and I still enjoy listening to Nocturnal Opera every once in a while, but it's all been going steadily downwards from there in my opinion. I wonder for how long he will keep writing the same songs.

This post has 100 thumbs up.

I'm still waiting for something REALLY new, not the same sounds again and again...

this one has 82 thumbs up.

 

[Madmoiselle_Silk]

I think it would be fun if Mana released a record with ONLY remakes. This way, people who wants to hear them can and those who don't like the remakes, don't have to buy it. Simple as that. I would prefer it that way.

 

[Geisha]

I think it'd be bad. People are already tired of Mana recycling stuff. And it's not just scape.

Go to youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29xZgUUB ... r_embedded and see what some of the top comments say

here, i'll post for you

Wow, nothing new for a couple of years, and THIS is what he releases? He's just rehashing the same amateurish, poorly written metal backed up by cheap sounding keyboards. I don't think there is one element of this song that cannot be found in at least one of his old songs. I used to be a big fan, and I still enjoy listening to Nocturnal Opera every once in a while, but it's all been going steadily downwards from there in my opinion. I wonder for how long he will keep writing the same songs.

This post has 100 thumbs up.

I'm still waiting for something REALLY new, not the same sounds again and again...

this one has 82 thumbs up.

As if YT is a measure for quality or representative of people's opinions. No forum is. On one German forum people complained that D+SECT (which is what the YT complaints are about) is too different and that MdM doesn't sound like MdM anymore. On another people complained that it isn't different enough. And on Scape most people liked it, which surprised me since most Scapers tend to pretty much hate MdM nowadays. Which isn't a statement in itself either because I know many people who don't post here anymore because they felt they constantly had to justify themselves for liking MdM to those who only hang around because they "still have hopes" (which vary wildly from person to person, so they're unlikely to be fulfilled, which again means more complaints). The Hamsterdance song has 13,255 likes on YT, does that make it a memorable artistic achievement?

When Mana does something different, like with BtG or Kanon, people complain that it is too different. When he does a variation of his signature style people complain that it isn't different enough. Poor man can't win. And it isn't just Mana, with other bands people also complain that they change styles too often or not enough. The only halfway informative measure of popularity is sales figures and according to Oricon D+SECT didn't sell any worse than MdM's other albums.

That said, I think a CD with only reworked old stuff would be a good idea. I don't mind a re-recorded song here and there and Mana hasn't actually done many compared to some other artists, e.g. Hizaki, but it would be an elegant way to get all the old songs they still play out there in one go.

 

[Phantom Pabulum]

I agree with Geisha. Everyone has their own opinions but Mana-critics seems to be especially harsh and everywhere lol

How do see the sales figures for Moi dix Mois albums? I'm interested to know.

I bought a physical copy of D+Sect and while I really really liked the music, I hated the artwork and poster. It looked like it was put together in an hour. I generally feel that Moi dix Mois albums have tacky artwork (especially when what Mana seems to be doing is to fuse traditional metal album-like covers with his own brand of gothic romance lol).

 

[Madmoiselle_Silk]

Well, I find it very annoying when fans don't dare to not like a bands products. And most of the people I "meet" likes Mana and Moi Dix Mois.

 

[Garnet in the Eden]

I think it'd be bad. People are already tired of Mana recycling stuff. And it's not just scape.

i really don't care if everyone in the entire universe hates what they consider to be mana recycling stuff. i like what he does, i like the remakes, and i'd like to hear more of what i like, that's all.

 

[Geisha]

How do see the sales figures for Moi dix Mois albums? I'm interested to know.

http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/artist/307 ... /cd_album/
http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/artist/307 ... cd_single/

Not sure how they work out the 1, 2, 3 ranking though since D+SECT apparently reached a higher Oricon position than Nocturnal Opera and Lamentful Miss a higher position than Dialogue Symphonie.

 

[Geisha]

Well, how many copies are we really talking about when we get down to 100+ 'th place on the indies chart? XD I imagine the random factor plays in a bunch - maybe someone's car broke down on the way to buy "Shadows Temple" and he skipped it, and that explains the difference.

Huh? I was merely wondering, if two albums appear in the charts once and one gets to #113 and the other to #116, how the #116 one end ups on top.